tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post3138374238102343137..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: Collectivism and The IndividualCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-20596542955963941132008-12-08T02:28:00.000-08:002008-12-08T02:28:00.000-08:00Crushed, Nicely argued and real long.Socialism sou...Crushed, Nicely argued and real long.<br><br>Socialism sounds great in theory.<br><br>It sounded pretty good to me in my younger days. It looked quite attractive, but didn’t live up to its promises, is basically impossible to live with… and was rubbish in bed too ^_^ <br><br>The problem with great theory is it does not always work in practice, and if a theory goes up against reality and reality wins then I figure the theory probably needs some work.<br><br>Look at who came up with it FGS! Engles and Marx… Ivory Tower City Arizona.<br><br>“From each.. …to each…” sounds reasonable and nice, great in fact. Downright Christian. <br><br>Over time I figured out, or had my nose rubbed in it by rl, that it didn’t actually work as advertised in practice. Me, I walk into a brick wall theory says should not be there I think you have got to wonder about the theory.<br><br>If people were perfect it would work, but if people were all perfect then virtually any system would work, no system at all would work even.<br><br>The problem is that it comes up against the fact that there are lots of people who naturally figure their needs are… so much greater than everyone else’s. Also others who figure if someone else is willing to work for them for free then they will just sit back and do as little as possible, like they are owed.<br><br>Now in the end if your system is to work you need to make sure those backsliders put in according to their actual means and take only their actual needs. To do that basically you need to force them, and you need a permanent apparatus of state to do that. <br><br>And what about needs? How can you really improve things under a system that effectively prevents you working a bit harder and actually benefiting in proportion for your work. Then there is that one persons improvement is another persons extravagance. <br><br>In the end to get everyone to fall in line really turns out to be oppression of all the people. Everyone looses out, on the wiggle room we all need, no privacy no liberty.<br><br>So, though I don’t approve those that milk the system, by running it, or sponging off it, I still for my own wellbeing need to ensure they can not be directly oppressed by forcing them. If I don’t then I figure it is eventually me too, some how some way.<br><br>Look at the old Soviet Union, If their system had really been as good as they said then it would not be on the “scrapheap of history”. China seems to be doing ok now, but it really isn’t pure socialism or much like communism these days. Look at Uni students trying to live in shared digs. These are bright, motivated people. Even then some people make a mess and never clean up and others always seem to do the work. <br><br>It depends on just how much squalor someone is willing to live in and how rarely and badly you are willing to contribute. <br><br>In the end it seems to me that socialism is basically a lead weight round the people’s neck.<br><br>I figure socialism gets it wrong because it looses sight of the person, it forces and dragoons the masses. I said it before it’s like the saying “look after the pennies and the pounds look after themselves”. Ensure the welfare of individual people, as much as you can, and the masses get taken care of in the process, ‘cos the individual people are collectively the masses.<br><br>The other way round eventually involves Zeks.<br><br>This is practically a post in it’s own right and though I have been contributing to “Nobody Important” according to my means the last two weeks I don’t figure it is enough.. I could go on, but it would end up as long as one of yours ^_^Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com