tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post4512614746484424717..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: Being NocentCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-84906631943727776422011-05-01T15:51:17.891-07:002011-05-01T15:51:17.891-07:00I try to use the word as often as I can, to someho...I try to use the word as often as I can, to somehow or someway bring it back to the English language. And of course in the older context of sin. I also try to use the word integrous. I guess the question I pose is this: What was God's intention for the tree? Here's another: Did God forever forbade eating from this tree?<br /><br />I ask this question maybe to say that God is God and He needs not to answer these questions. I think, more likely, I ask the questions to ponder further the character of God. If God is Benevolent or all good, wouldn't He putting the tree in the garden so that His Son would come to Earth to die for our sin, wouldn't this thought make God manipulative? Isn't that wrong? I may or may not be a Christian Fundamentalist. I'm curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-35591192943398717332008-10-07T15:09:00.000-07:002008-10-07T15:09:00.000-07:00When you say you are a practising Catholic- what d...When you say you are a practising Catholic- what do you mean? I don't mean to criticise your beliefs but am just interested- I've always thought that being a Catholic involved the Nicean creed, adherence to Papal clerical authority and the tradition of the church. But you would seem to undermine all three by syaing that you don't beleive in a personal god- so and I don't mean this hostilely, what do you mena by saying you are a practising Catholic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-16231740433050134182008-10-08T01:40:00.000-07:002008-10-08T01:40:00.000-07:00Crushed, Interesting post, but I am going to have ...Crushed, Interesting post, but I am going to have to be mean and disagree with you to some extent.<br><br>It the fruit gave them the knowledge of good and evil. The ability to see it, to tell the difference. Presumably before that they may have done ‘bad’ stuff but not intentionally and they would not have realised. In other words, Ignorance is bliss.<br><br> In fact it might be arguable that the so called original sin can not have been a sin. If you follow the logic then Eve ate that apple whilst having no knowledge of good and evil, so how could that act have been a sin? I guess the sin would be offering it to Adam after she ate.<br><br>So living without the knowledge might be ‘discovery channel living’, as the song says ‘living like animals do’. Killing, eating, enjoying sex, lazing around when possible, throwing poo, etc. some of that might be ‘bad’ but we would just not know it.<br><br>As for owning being part of it. Well that is a bit of a jump. It does not really follow. <br><br>In any case a lion clearly ‘owns’ it’s food and would get pretty nasty with you if you disputed his ownership, but as far as I know there was no leonine eve. So owning a sin?… I don’t think so.<br><br>I would tentatively agree on the ‘free love’ thingy. But it should be governed by loyalties and friendships, love and such.<br><br>Gracchi makes a good point. Is it a case of believing two things at the same time, or maybe in serial... or more like being Jewish but not religious?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-67882278159656892082008-10-08T07:05:00.000-07:002008-10-08T07:05:00.000-07:00I am a practicing spiritualist, or maybe that is j...I am a practicing spiritualist, or maybe that is just a cop out on my part. CatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-91955151336654265242008-10-08T07:58:00.000-07:002008-10-08T07:58:00.000-07:00You are a mass of contradictions. But it always ma...You are a mass of contradictions. But it always makes for an intersting read...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com