tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post4516986929717813340..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: Faith and The OneCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-6344772316453709312008-07-18T17:07:00.000-07:002008-07-18T17:07:00.000-07:00After reading the first bit, can you love without ...After reading the first bit, can you love without there being a bargain, I do and have done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-12113750023936925382008-07-18T20:36:00.000-07:002008-07-18T20:36:00.000-07:00(1) This reminds me of arguments over whether ther...(1) This reminds me of arguments over whether there could ever truly be altruistic behavior. I would consider the point moot, after awhile. Whether one defines the person as singular or plural makes the difference.<br><br>(2) I can understand loving someone without the hope of any payback, for I tend to do that. I wouldn't know about waiting for "The One," however, for I feel there is more than the one. And waiting around for a while in case they might change their minds isn't something I am wont to do. After all, would I be rooting against something that the one has invested much of her spirit in? <br><br>Meanwhile, life is short.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-45495568721239449812008-07-19T23:57:00.000-07:002008-07-19T23:57:00.000-07:00Fabulous post here Crushed. I know that for me, wh...Fabulous post here Crushed. I know that for me, when I've lost faith (in myself, in human nature, in Jesus, in life) then I am at a complete loss. I turn myself in circles wondering what is the point of everything? When I have depression, I feel I have lost touch with faith.<br><br>I think even if we can just believe in one thing, and hold it dear, then it can be a successful life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-37472170437954875212008-07-20T02:41:00.000-07:002008-07-20T02:41:00.000-07:00Faith is good, and I suppose we all need to have f...Faith is good, and I suppose we all need to have faith in something - be it religion or something/someone else.<br><br>But we should be careful not to pit our faith into thankless or undeserving projects because that can worse than having no faith at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-52213625658270932852008-07-20T07:02:00.000-07:002008-07-20T07:02:00.000-07:00Nunyaa- :)Good for you!If only more could see it t...Nunyaa- :)<br>Good for you!<br>If only more could see it that way. But for so many, it's a bargain. Which is why it feeds in to bitterness, long term.<br><br>X-dell- We have to hope, or at least aspire to it.<br>My feeling is that when you do come across The One, it does kind of ppeal to a sense of altruism beyond what seems to make sense. Ny nature, it's unconditional devotion.<br><br>Well, the point is you have two choices. YOu have to aske yourself whether settling for somone who isn't the one isn't going to make you regret having settled for something less than you hoped for.<br><br>Surely it is better to be rejected forever by The One than be loved forever be someone lesser?<br><br>Becaue the problem is, accepting the love of someone lesser commits you to a lie.<br>And can you live with that lie?<br><br>Kate- I agree. Everyone's got to have faith in something.<br><br>But I'm not sure Faith is a matter of choice. You can't always CHOOSe what to believe. For example, I can't sit here and DECIDe I'm going to believe that elves live in my bin. I'm not going to convince myself.<br><br>I think there is something miraculous about faith and when it hits us, we should embrace it.<br><br>Bunny- I think when you invest it in someone else it has elements it doesn't when the objects are largely imaginary. Perhaps that makes the faith greater; it has risks investing it in an imaginary icon do not.<br><br>For a faith to be truly satisfying it has to offer the possibility of thanklessness- part of the satisfaction is the knowledge you could get nothing back. It's freely given.<br><br>As for deserving, well, who decides that?<br>Surely that's the decision of the person having faith?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-86123170261067097332008-07-20T12:14:00.000-07:002008-07-20T12:14:00.000-07:00I'd see that as a personal choice. In fact, most ...I'd see that as a personal choice. In fact, most people might be perfectly happy loving the one they're with than the one they'll never get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-9906690447496153642008-07-20T13:32:00.000-07:002008-07-20T13:32:00.000-07:00A very good post Mr Ingsoc - very thought provokin...A very good post Mr Ingsoc - very thought provoking ... I wonder if I will ever meet the one? I think we have a psychic link by the way - I also have a nude on my blog aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-14731974950196744412008-07-20T14:45:00.000-07:002008-07-20T14:45:00.000-07:00my buddhist friends might tell you that this also ...my buddhist friends might tell you that this also sounds a lot like a discussion of karma, and they might be right.<br><br>intertwined into all of this also sits an examination of the concept of serindipity--the idea that there are a thousand tiny pleasures found in the most mundane things life brings us.<br><br>that lifestyle is also an expression of faith and optimism...but it might not be related to a deistic orientaion in a person's personal philosophy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-74043210823733649832008-07-21T01:31:00.000-07:002008-07-21T01:31:00.000-07:00This is a sequel to your other post and expresses ...This is a sequel to your other post and expresses things more clearly. Loving without expecting something in return is what many do I think. You might hope, but not expect. <br><br>A bit like paying it forward…<br><br>Your previous comment about the perfect feeling I think is still beaten by loving unconditionally and being loved unconditionally by the one you love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-4299078250732446342008-07-21T06:49:00.000-07:002008-07-21T06:49:00.000-07:00Hmm, the whole "The One" scenario sounds...Hmm, the whole "The One" scenario sounds all lovely in theory, but a tad naive. <br><br>I'm more of a "potential Mr Rights" kinda gal - its not that you can nly find absolute a happiness with only one person. <br><br>U dont chose whom you fall in love with, but you can chose whether or not act upon it, and give hapiness & love a try...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-55857189399338873642008-07-21T10:55:00.000-07:002008-07-21T10:55:00.000-07:00X-dell- And isn't that infidelity in the TRUE sens...X-dell- And isn't that infidelity in the TRUE sense of the word?<br>You see, this is the whole problem with the canard of sexual fidelity, the points is are you true to yourself and what you fell?<br><br>Settling for someone who isn't 'The One', when in your mind you KNOW who the one is, is slightly idolatrous almost, don't you think?<br><br>Mutley- I like naked black women. They're fun.<br><br>FC- Well, Karma is something I believe in, I'm not the most orthodox Catholic and I don't believe in afterlife. What I do believe in, is Karma.<br><br>I believe everything happens for a reason and every experience serves some purpose.<br><br>Moggs- Ah, but the problem is you can't be sure your own love is unconditional, if you're getting something back. The only way you can be sure, is if you get nothing back.<br><br>What use is a faith that is never put to the test?<br><br>I actually believe that most martyrs die in a state of mind transcending any euphoria we can imagine.<br><br>Crashie- Idealistic, maybe, but I don't know about naive.<br><br>Happiness, yes, but what grade of happiness? Christ could probably have been happy setting up a business making furniture and raising kids with Mary Magdalene. But wouldn't he always have felt a fraud?<br><br>Sometimes the true happiness is to be found in the path that looks less promising. The TRUE happiness is in denying yourself the APPARENT happiness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com