tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post4656623351663474620..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: Tantalising UtopiaCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-91930529297538936662009-03-04T15:05:00.000-08:002009-03-04T15:05:00.000-08:00Sweet Cheeks- It will, I think. Or the time period...Sweet Cheeks- It will, I think. Or the time period within which we expect to still be alive, certainly.<BR/><BR/>Not the great results of it, but the global revolution that starts the new era.<BR/><BR/>When I first came round to this way of thinking (about 2005, I think), I was thinking of 2050 as the final death throes of Capitalism. Now, I'm thinking more 2020-2025.<BR/><BR/>Mutley- There won't be. Until we start to get too numerous again.<BR/><BR/>By 2200, I'm guessing there will be over two hundred billion human beins in tthis star system.<BR/><BR/>Fusion- We live in interesting times. It won't last much longer.<BR/><BR/>You know why? Because more and more people are seeing things in a similar way.<BR/><BR/>Look at it. I'm an ex chairman of the Aberystwyth University Conservative Students. And if I can find, through life's experience, that in fact eveything I ever believed in is a lie and that the rotten doors need kicking down, it's proof that anyone can, if they open their eyes.<BR/><BR/>I've Been Mugged- Altruism is the ultimate selfishness though.<BR/><BR/>That is the little bit of logic mankind needs to get it's head round...<BR/><BR/>Electro-Kevin- To begin with, yes. At one time, it was guaranteed to benefit anyone brought into it. It always increased RELATIVE poverty, but that didn't matter because it DECREASED absolute poverty far more. If a peasant moves up from a hovel to a terrace house, it doesn't matter that the Earl of Dudley is richer than any medieval monarch ever was.<BR/><BR/>But now that's no longer true. Now the advance in terms of lifting people of absolute poverty is not that noticeable, compated to the vast widening of the relative poverty gap. And that matters of course, whatever one likes to think, because it affects how people feel about their society.Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-10253951870437442892009-02-28T10:14:00.000-08:002009-02-28T10:14:00.000-08:00Don't you agree that rather than causing poverty c...Don't you agree that rather than causing poverty capitalism was the most successful mechanism for alleviating it ?Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-48100763537641325662009-02-27T17:08:00.000-08:002009-02-27T17:08:00.000-08:00I fear it is but a dream.Too much greed about and ...I fear it is but a dream.<BR/><BR/>Too much greed about and as they say..'shite always floats to the top' and that my friend, leaves Utopia in the mind of he who believes he has it, whatever his circumstance might be.<BR/><BR/>Well, that's my twopence worth anyway.I've Been Muggedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17927964551251511919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-7027240865502942572009-02-27T01:18:00.000-08:002009-02-27T01:18:00.000-08:00It would be nice to have it now actually, I'm pret...It would be nice to have it now actually, I'm pretty tired of all the greed and corruption anymore.Fusionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05478465297213819613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-36036477701577118762009-02-26T04:31:00.000-08:002009-02-26T04:31:00.000-08:00It sounds like the society in Star Trek where ther...It sounds like the society in Star Trek where there is no scarcity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-52571345117239041922009-02-25T18:57:00.000-08:002009-02-25T18:57:00.000-08:00Well, it would be something if it happened in our ...Well, it would be something if it happened in our lifetimes...<BR/><BR/>Both frightening and exciting I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com