tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post6280855605729470776..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: Pointless Stream of Consciousness BloggingCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-88021810615573283502008-03-23T21:54:00.000-07:002008-03-23T21:54:00.000-07:00> It actually took a thought experiment, less t...> It actually took a thought experiment, less than two years ago to reconcile the two.<br>The fall is a myth, yes. But in the context of the myth, had Adam and Eve not eaten the fruit, how would mankind have lived, in Eden?<br><br>Free Love and Communism, surely.<br>Marriage and property, from a theological point of view, are a consequence of the fall.<br>Even if it is a myth, the implications of theology are, marriage and property are needed only because man is imperfect.<br><br>Ok :-) But the thing is, the fall DID happen, and we can't undo it; and that's why God sent Jesus. So that alternative future that might have happened can't; it's already been changed...<br><br>> Alarmingly, perhaps, I've finished another can since I started this post.<br>Interesting, the power of a can. Just one can; it's easy to drink. But it seems to be more powerful than just an ordinary drink...<br><br>Good post. Intriguing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-64534174113654865142008-03-24T05:20:00.000-07:002008-03-24T05:20:00.000-07:00J, suggest you create a back-up of your blog in ca...J, suggest you create a back-up of your blog in case you are ever hacked out of your blog, or something goes awry.<br><br>For a quick and easy way to back it up, email me.<br><br>In regard to making your mark on the world, it's easy to do it via a blog. But the audience will often change. As dedicated as you are, does not mean that your readers will be here for years to come.<br><br>Try doing something profound where you can reap the rewards in real life. People are the best teachers. Not face-less comments from cyber-space.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-53150318683265945362008-03-24T08:13:00.000-07:002008-03-24T08:13:00.000-07:00Iambeginning to get the impression you take allthi...Iambeginning to get the impression you take allthis blogging seriously...*grins* I am with Ms Smack -not literally sadly - make a back up and also communicate in other ways as well...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-6377506952231369122008-03-24T10:47:00.000-07:002008-03-24T10:47:00.000-07:00Oh Good Grief! Are you really expecting us to reea...Oh Good Grief! Are you really expecting us to reead all of that long and boring post?<br><br>Incredible.<br><br>You just dont get it do you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-15571835384772391852008-03-24T11:49:00.000-07:002008-03-24T11:49:00.000-07:00Eve- But the fall is an allegory. The point is, we...Eve- But the fall is an allegory. The point is, we're striving to overcome something, and think it's the fall, it's our animal nature.<br><br>Incidently, I recommend Perelandra by CS Lewis. It touches on the theme of the fall, it's about the first couple in an Eden situation, on Venus.<br><br>I think I knocked back about five cand during the post, in fact.<br><br>Ms S- I did think someone may have tried to get into it recently, in fact, because I got one of these e-mails from g-mail asking me if I'd forgotten my password. Could have been a glitch of course.<br><br>Yes, I prob should back it up. I'll e-mail you in a bit.<br><br>Nothing stands still, and I think the medium is evolving yet.<br>I think there's a lot we're all still discovering about the medium.<br><br>When I expound these views in real life, it certainly makes for interesting discussion. Problem is, most people I really talk to in depth in RL, are fairly similar types to me, University educated, liberal lifestyle, Thatchers children, vote Tory mainly because they hate state control, but don't like the party or its views otherwise. So they're fairly open to the wordlview I believe in anyway. it's preaching to the converted, really.<br><br>Mutley- Mushroom clouds, or Martian colonisation. That's what at stake.<br><br>I've been pondering possible ways to look at constructive political action, to be honest, I've not really got over far with any of them.<br>I think exposing the myth of the terror threat, and how its being manipulated, must be where we start.<br><br>Pineapples- Read what you want. Free country. Or so they tell us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-12191467087896041802008-03-24T13:02:00.000-07:002008-03-24T13:02:00.000-07:00CBI, excellent post. Stream of consciousness post...CBI, excellent post. Stream of consciousness posting is one of the joys of blogging, if not one of the joys of reading blogs..I haven't posted anything after less than 5 Stellas for, oh, over a year now...<br><br>Adam and Eve...surely a timeless statement of man's alienation from the ground of being, from love, from the cosmos, rather than a historical document? Of all the shit that tossers like Dr Evan Harris could throw at us, biblical literalism is surely not one of them.<br><br><i>Mutley- Mushroom clouds, or Martian colonisation. That's what at stake.</i><br><br>dunno if I agree with the whole statement but I would definitely say that it's mushroom clouds or no mushroom clouds, and that's a big enough choice, to my mind. We've come so far, and so close towards it, we've escaped it by a thread (!) and we might yet seek its finality, but I find it kind of comforting that an accidental nuclear holocaust fits so neatly with a contingent view of the universe that it almost makes sense.<br><br>We haven't yet made the choice for certain, though we thought we had in 1989. We thought we'd liberated ourselves from 1914-1989 but we were just kidding, really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-51381971307714702502008-03-24T16:59:00.000-07:002008-03-24T16:59:00.000-07:00Crushed, I'm relieved you're still there! If you ...Crushed, I'm relieved you're still there! If you become a PPS - and I still think you might - you could just remind them all that most took drugs or drank in their youth. I'd rather be represented by someone who had been through the mill a bit, myself. "Tomorrow is another day".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-18742405286975543692008-03-24T17:03:00.000-07:002008-03-24T17:03:00.000-07:00Excellent speech, sir. You expressed it perfectly...Excellent speech, sir. You expressed it perfectly. <br><br>"One who eases the burdens of others does not live in vain."<br><br>Your writing gives a lot of disillusioned people something to identify with and help them understand the implications of the current political landscape. This is a very good thing, since the higher ups now want people to understand as little as possible.<br><br>In my own country, I've watch the two dominant political parties waver and fade to the point that there is now actually very little difference between the two. Republican or democrat, they only want to project the current regime so their children will remain on top in the future. It's the truth and has been going on for a long time. Check out a book called "Burke's Peerage". This volume is hard to find, but it details the lineage of over ten thousand elite families in Europe and America. It is printed every year, a a service to these famillies to better keep the riff raff out of their bloodlines.<br><br>I would have been by sooner, but the computer that I've had to use crashes every time I load up yours and a fewother's pages. Today I'm at my local college library and took the shot to come by. I did get to read a few of your older posts, but it would freeze up before I could comment.<br><br>Just wanted to shout out.<br><br>Take it easy.<br><br>And as I said, great writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-28027427006919947672008-03-25T04:33:00.000-07:002008-03-25T04:33:00.000-07:00I think that if you google keyloggers, or hacking ...I think that if you google keyloggers, or hacking symptoms, you'll see email issues that you've shared here, as a symptom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-92166916898559216482008-03-25T12:52:00.000-07:002008-03-25T12:52:00.000-07:00TD- I sometimes go commenting when slightly spanne...TD- I sometimes go commenting when slightly spannered, which isn't always wise.<br>I have done posts when slightly pissed, but neverjust for the hell of it. This, I guess, was mainly to realise angst.<br><br>Biblical literalism is annoying, certainly, and profoundly unhelpful. It means we overlook the universal truths, such as 'he who is without sin cast the first stone' and all that, which, really, is what Jesus is all about.<br><br>But pillars of salt, arks and seas parting, well, they belong with Frost giants and seas of milk; firmly in the cycle of myth.<br><br>I don't know, I think along with consciousness and reason, comes a moral responsibility to take control of our destiny. I don't think we should be ashamed of what we are, we are the most amazing thing that's ever happened, and potentially, we could get way more amazing yet.<br><br>You can't put the genie back in the bottle, it's there. But, it's how we use it. It's like cloning, genetic engineering, etc. We know these things now, we can't pretend we don't, so it's how we use them.<br><br>Welshcakes- I never went anywhere :) Pub across the road, that was it, really.<br>A very dull Easter, and I was on my own for most of it, which can make me a little down.<br>And to be honest, fallout from the Christmas fun was getting me down. But I've had some nice e-mails from people which cheered me up.<br><br>Eric- I think I was quite fired up towards the end.<br><br>I write, because it really does worry me, and yes, the implications are bloody scary.<br>Do you know 75% of the British pople WANTED the government to bring in 90 days internment without trial for terror suspects.<br><br>Er, South Africa under Verwoerd????<br><br>Crazy.<br><br>Thanks for the compliment, though.<br><br>Yes, the Republocrats, we have the same here, three different coloured brands, all committed to state capitalism. To call it Free Enterprise is a lie, it's an Oligopoly, pure and simple.<br><br>Burke's peerage, most libraries here keep a copy. It makes for interesting reading, though these days much of it is replicated in Wikipedia. I find some of the wierd inheritance rules interesting.<br><br>Here's one. There was an Earl of Queensberry, who upgraded to a Marquess, and then a Duke. Eventually, a Duke died childless.<br><br>Now this is where it gets interesting, Inheritance rules for Dukes are different to Marquesses, and BOTH titles had patents. So one relative became the Marquess of Queensberry, and another became the Duke of Queensberry.<br><br>No worries, I remember our Uni PCs. This was before broadband. Ten minutes to load a page, most times.<br><br>Ms S- It's possible. I can see why somebody would. There are some of my e-mail account passwords that probably need changing again. Most of them are quite obscure, but one is a little too easy, I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-57307995551115427602008-03-25T15:26:00.000-07:002008-03-25T15:26:00.000-07:00But pillars of salt, arks and seas parting, well, ...<i>But pillars of salt, arks and seas parting, well, they belong with Frost giants and seas of milk; firmly in the cycle of myth.</i><br><br>Well, yes, but they tell truths: pillars of salt is surely a description of a nuclear attack - prophecy, misreading, whatever. Myth does not mean untrue. The myths of our culture are not falsehoods. The cycle of myth is a cycle of life. Kind of. <br><br>And, it is one of my pet topics: we're still living out that long period of nightmare, that Harold Macmillan dreamt of until he died, and that many men and women of my grandad's and dad's generation lived through and that I had as the backdrop to my childhood, with my own dreams of cruise missiles hanging beautifully over my house. It ain't over. It really ain't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-2633160070053851942008-03-27T06:12:00.000-07:002008-03-27T06:12:00.000-07:00TD- :) It has been said, by Von Daniken and others...TD- :) It has been said, by Von Daniken and others, that the destruction of the cities of the plain IS a description of nuclear attack.<br><br>Atomic power is the modern Promethues, the damnation or redemption of man. Through it, we will create either heaven or hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com