tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post6128966322940722073..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: A Little Nietzche WisdomCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-50468636262518691042008-05-22T16:36:00.000-07:002008-05-22T16:36:00.000-07:00You know I never have read this man's work at all....You know I never have read this man's work at all. That's what comes of a scientific bent I guess or lack of intellect or something. But since I recognize some of these quotes, he has made it into the mainstream. <br><br><i>Women can form a friendship with a man very well; but to preserve it - to that end a slight physical antipathy must probably help.</i> <br>or they are happily in other established relationships. Plus why do men put so much emphasis on physical appearance when women do not? You might have a great brain but if you are physically antipathetic he's just not interested physically. Now I am mad at him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-85285446076038718142008-05-23T01:45:00.001-07:002008-05-23T01:45:00.001-07:00One ought to hold on to one's heart; for if one le...One ought to hold on to one's heart; for if one lets it go, one soon loses control of the head too.<br><br>This be true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-10690363965971656172008-05-23T01:45:00.000-07:002008-05-23T01:45:00.000-07:00A woman may very well form a friendship with a man...<i>A woman may very well form a friendship with a man, but for this to endure, it must be assisted by a little physical antipathy.</i><br><br><br>Well... :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-35759818451780393872008-05-23T09:03:00.000-07:002008-05-23T09:03:00.000-07:00Pretty good quotes> This is what is hardest: to...Pretty good quotes<br><br>> This is what is hardest: to close the open hand because one loves.<br>Explain this one to me, please... what does he mean? :-)<br><br>> Women can form a friendship with a man very well; but to preserve it - to that end a slight physical antipathy must probably help.<br>Yeah;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-26228265529376900182008-05-23T10:18:00.000-07:002008-05-23T10:18:00.000-07:00jmb- I'm a big fan of Nietzche, it's true to see t...jmb- I'm a big fan of Nietzche, it's true to see the first time I read him, it was like a cold shower.<br><br>Because so much of what he says is stuff you KNOW in your heart to be true, but feared saying, or even admitting that you thought.<br><br>People often misunderstand him- he is sen as amoral, when in fact he is PROFOUNDLY moral. He just had contempt for unthinking book morality. In a sense, he was one of the founders of moral relativism. Likewise, it is not true he hated christ. He despised most CHRISTIANS, but he held Jesus up to a true example of one of the finer products of humanity.<br><br>And lastly, of course, he would have despised Nazism as everything that is anathema to what he was trying to say, much as Marx would have been sickened by Stalin.<br><br>Nietxche's basic philosophy is about man freeing himself from bondage and escaping the lowest common denominator.<br><br>Genealogy of Morals is worth reading- especially for some good ideas on sexual taboos.<br><br>I think what he meant with this quote is that if a man and a woman are friends for a long time, then they will start to see eachother romantically, unless they don't fancy eachother.<br><br>A grain of truth in it, I think. But Nietzche was certainly a pessimist when it came to romance.<br><br>Nunyaa- Glad you spotted that one; one amongst many quotes which gives the lie to the idea that Nietzche was an inhumane, amoral thinker. Nietzche believed that what made man unique was both head and heart.<br><br>Heart- Note he said 'must probably help', as opposed to impossible.<br><br>But compare; 'It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages.'<br><br>Taken together, I'd say they implied what we all know as common sense. Start seeing a friend of the opposite sex romantically, there is a danger the friendship will be ruined, but on the other hand, how can you love someone who ISN'T your friend too?<br><br>Perhaps the best way to interpret that is, don't ruin a good friendship for sex, but if it's love- REALLY love, then go for it.<br><br>Eve- The short answer any parent can tell you :)<br>It means saying no and seeing the hurt on someone's face, when the truth is, you are saying no because you are doing what is right.<br><br>It can mean lots of things, but in the main I think it means stopping giving someone something they think they need, because it isn't good for either you or them, that they need it.<br><br>Everyone seems to love that quote- I wonder what Nietzche would have thought of the internet? Maybe he'd he'd have reappraised this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-5522261160532562402008-05-24T00:32:00.000-07:002008-05-24T00:32:00.000-07:00That's a good answer for me today, Crushed :-)Haha...That's a good answer for me today, Crushed :-)<br>Haha- yes, re the internet, he'd tell us, like you have, that we're being fools ;-) Well, we live and learn :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-53811799656991154332008-05-24T01:17:00.000-07:002008-05-24T01:17:00.000-07:00I loved this! I know of his name but I confess to ...I loved this! I know of his name but I confess to never really taking notice of what he said.<br>Thanks for doing this... I was almost swooning on a few of his statements... wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-34121518118389437622008-05-24T09:30:00.000-07:002008-05-24T09:30:00.000-07:00You double quoted the physical antipathy one! I ca...You double quoted the physical antipathy one! I caught you! ;)<br><br>The Duke actually wrote his Honours thesis on Nietzche (which is the only reason I can spell it reasonably accurately). He's a pretty fascinating guy whose ideas influenced a lot without always being acknowledged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-63374110722845711742008-05-24T09:50:00.000-07:002008-05-24T09:50:00.000-07:00Ai yah... the princess is right! Maybe that's why ...Ai yah... the princess is right! Maybe that's why we all noticed that line... subliminal programming... repetition ;-) My pastor DID say that the average person tends to hear the gospel at least 7 times before they believe... it takes that many repetitions before it seeps into their brain... hehehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-19111853293441082222008-05-24T11:31:00.000-07:002008-05-24T11:31:00.000-07:00Eve- I don't know he'd have said that, but maybe h...Eve- I don't know he'd have said that, but maybe he'd have said;<br><br>'Women can form a friendship with a man very well; but to preserve it - to that end a slight physical antipathy must probably help, unless of course, it's over the internet, in which case it's not an issue'.<br><br>Kate- I feel that way about much of what he writes. I think he's one of those writers you have to read in small bursts, then go away and take in what you have read.<br><br>I would describe myself as being a Nietzcheist to some degree, and I do often feel he needs rescuing from some of the negative press he receives, mainly due to the fact that Hitler used to quote him. True, but so did Jim Morrison. And the Spanish Inquisition quoted Jesus.<br><br>Princess P- The truth is, I don't double quote, Nietzche did. If you ckeck, the wording is different. Nietazche did that a lot, if he said something he liked, he often used the line again in a different work. He said BOTH 'What doesn't kill you makes you strongers', and also the version quoted here.<br><br>The truth is I was orginally going to do this the hard way until I found a site with Nietzche's 221 most used quotes- and it had of course, almost every line of his that I like. Of course, in some cases, some quotes are just variations of others, as is this. This example escaped my editing- I didn't realise I'd used both variants.<br><br>You probably can see how much a lot of my outlook owes to Nietazche, then :)<br><br>Eve- Well, to continue the answer I gave the Princess, I guess that's why he so often repeated himself. Nietazche certainly believed that 'Egoism is the very essence of a noble soul', and he had no qualms in believing his words to be important- so he made sure people remembered them.<br><br>Which of course they do. Even if half the time, they don't really understand.<br><br>But he think he was right to believe he was saying somethingspecial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-4234178691876585952008-05-24T15:43:00.000-07:002008-05-24T15:43:00.000-07:00A woman saying no?From some of the things I am fin...A woman saying no?<br>From some of the things I am finding out about you that seems a concept quiet alien to you <br>cock sucker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-4884332702170394112008-05-25T03:49:00.000-07:002008-05-25T03:49:00.000-07:00Beast- I don't follow your statement, or it's rele...Beast- I don't follow your statement, or it's relevance to the post.<br><br>Maybe you'd like to clarify?<br><br>Maybe you'd care to state what you mean by it, because there seems to be an implied slur contained therein.<br><br>Stop me if I'm wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-3278651011073644912008-05-25T10:17:00.000-07:002008-05-25T10:17:00.000-07:00Being a quotefreak, Nietzsche is definitely one of...Being a quotefreak, Nietzsche is definitely one of my most favourite ppl to quote. He expressed everything you feel but cannot bear putting into words. <br><br><i>“I still live, I still think: I still have to live, for I still have to think.”</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com