tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post9104592016437343843..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: NiceCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-77976472914490182362009-02-02T18:42:00.000-08:002009-02-02T18:42:00.000-08:00I would call murder - the deliberate or even simpl...I would call murder - the deliberate or even simply callous taking of another's life - immoral, as I would stealing.<br><br>My aim in life isn't to have as many friends as possible and I think if one speaks their mind, it is impossible not to make enemies. I don't know where on the niceness scale this places me. I'm not sure I care. I used to think I was evil because no matter what I did, there were people unhappy with me. Being nice is overrated. I'm just gonna be me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-39058349925217532532009-02-02T19:42:00.000-08:002009-02-02T19:42:00.000-08:00One man's nice is another man's rude. Some people ...One man's nice is another man's rude. Some people have no clue how horrible their behavior is, not to mention how much they are hurting other's feelings.<br><br>I also don't think nice should be confused with law abiding. People who break the law should be held accountable. I would not feel joy at the sentencing of a law breaker. But I would feel relief that the person was held to the standard we should all be living under.<br><br>I personally try to be nice to everyone I meet. Which to me equals respectful, and sensitive. If that person loses my trust, they have a nearly impossible road to regain it. <br><br>Oh No...Does that make me Not Nice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-55751753229135551062009-02-02T20:46:00.000-08:002009-02-02T20:46:00.000-08:00Because immoral is a word the righteous use for pl...Because immoral is a word the righteous use for pleasures they deny themselves to make themselves feel righteous.<br><br><br>I agree with this statement. But I would not go so far as to say moralists are evil. I'd say they are just a wee bit pathetic and even cruel to a point.<br><br><br>I find it fascinating that people we applaud in history as being wonderful and heroic could actually participate in very nasty situations and actions. Not many were just simply 'nice'.<br><br>Good post crushed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-35356692558396651982009-02-02T22:12:00.000-08:002009-02-02T22:12:00.000-08:00Sadly you can be a good person and still make enem...Sadly you can be a good person and still make enemies. So being nice doesn't always bring its just rewards. But treat people as you wish to be treated, that simple statement most often works and for me, the bottom line is to be able to live with yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-45330454131576049962009-02-03T10:00:00.000-08:002009-02-03T10:00:00.000-08:00Some types of murder are surely amoral, though? I ...Some types of murder are surely amoral, though? I am often sickened when I hear a victim's family say they are "happy" with a verdict and even more so by the self-righteous who call for punishments worthy of the Spanish Inquisition. And I always used to wonder about people like Longford, who, for his famous Pornography Report, read loads of the stuff. How come it was going to harm everyone else who read it but not him?<br>Interesting post, Crushed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-77551382508161479822009-02-03T12:34:00.000-08:002009-02-03T12:34:00.000-08:00Crushed, if someone appears to be "nice", and yet ...Crushed, if someone appears to be "nice", and yet they lie, doesn't that classify them as not being nice at all?<br><br>Justice is the only thing which seperates the hypocrits from the culprits.<br><br>Without it, people could be nice all day long and continue to victimize others without having to pay for the consequences of their actions.<br><br>Of course nobody should cheer when the guilty get punished.<br><br>But then the fucking guilty shouldn't have committed the crime to begin with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-39256212160443131082009-02-03T12:58:00.000-08:002009-02-03T12:58:00.000-08:00Vicarious Rising- Yes, you're right, it does seem ...Vicarious Rising- Yes, you're right, it does seem to be impossible not to make enemies.<br>Shame though.<br><br>Generally you come across as nice. And I judge people how I say them.<br><br>Sweet Cheeks- You're right yes, some people really don't have a clue.<br><br>Nice and law abiding are not the same thing, no. It depends on the law. I mean, I think rapists are nasty by any definition. Whereas most pot smokers are actually on the whole nicer people than those who've never touched it. Not sure why that should be so, but it is.<br><br>No, I think that's the right way round. that's generally how I am.<br><br>Kate- Pathetic yes, Pathetic isn't evil. Cruel, yes. and cruel IS.<br><br>They're also usually hypocrites.<br><br>I guess one can often find that life does impose hard choices on people, sometimes indeed good men have had to do evil things.<br><br>It isn't always straight forward, sadly.<br>I guess I suppose it all boils down to striving for the greatest possible happiness of the greatest possible number.<br><br>jmb- This is- unfortunately so, as I have myself discovered.<br>Sometimes one can do the right thing and still be misrepresented.<br><br>I can live with myself, certainly. I can always look myself in the eye in the mirror, and that's what matters.<br><br>Welshcakes- Well, anything evil is immoral by definition.<br><br>But when the stronger word- evil- is available, we use it.<br><br>The only time people use the word 'immoral' they use it because they CAN'T use the word evil.<br><br>You make a good point about Longford. But isn't this why the Vice squad in the Met has always been corrupt? It's founded on a hypocritical premise in the first place.<br><br>This is the danger of any system of ethics NOT based on moral relativism.<br><br>Shelly- On the whole, yes. Though we do have the concept of a white lie; as in there are occasions when to tell someone the truth isn't actually the nice thing to do.<br><br>Justice separates hypocrites from culprits...<br>Not sure I get that one.<br><br>Nice is, as nice does.<br>As in, behaving nicely to people.<br><br>Do as you would be done by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-73548440271869131202009-02-03T17:46:00.000-08:002009-02-03T17:46:00.000-08:00'Do as you would be done by' - That's the nice way...'Do as you would be done by' - <br><br>That's the nice way of seeing it Crushed.<br><br>How does it work if you have been done by not as you would do? Personally, I only have the four cheeks. But the two fingers I still have, work quite well. One per eye.<br><br>Sometimes even the 'Nice' have to stand up for themselves you know - even if it isn't nice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-74555880142444615722009-02-03T17:48:00.000-08:002009-02-03T17:48:00.000-08:00I like Dalton's advice in "Road House."Be nice. U...I like Dalton's advice in "Road House."<br><br>Be nice. Until it's time to not be nice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-66528755370721499952009-02-04T00:00:00.000-08:002009-02-04T00:00:00.000-08:00Crushed,If your teacher was anything like some of ...Crushed,<br><br>If your teacher was anything like some of mine then, I figure they probably considered punctuation and spelling as old fashioned unnecessary bolt on extras to 'creative writing'. <br><br>One of mine had a real bugbear about the word 'decent'. <br><br>You are using nice to mean pleasant, mildly good. Knowing you, I bet you know it means precise or accurate too and that the other meaning developed from that. Like you might say, "nicely judged".<br><br>Also sorry to blow a hole on your "nasty" Roundheads, your prejudices showing? But, and I may be open to correction here, any actors would probably all have been male then. I think it was considered a male profession up to the reign of Chuck #II of the restoration who liked the ladies, think Nell, and got them on the stage. I think actresses may even actually have been prohibited by law up to then.<br><br>There were of course prostitutes of the female persuasion. I bet the great and good (all guys wouldn't you bet?) would have been keen to patronise them on Saturday night and denounce them on Sunday morning. So your actual overall argument about it holds up, I guess I am just arguing details.<br><br>Ask me another time about very expensive prunes in Southwark ^_^<br><br>Now as to justice being done. You say <i>"I actually get quite sickened when I see people trotting out the argument that 'justice needs to be done'"</i> Hmmnn. Did you listen to yourself when you were out-doing the Mail/Sun/Mirror on anyone vaguely suspected of being a paedophile deserving death, or possibly anyone over 40 going out with any girl under 25. <br><br>So maybe dial back on the holier than though (or at least holier than Roundheads^_^) a little bit?<br><br>There are some pretty good points in most of the comments that I can't help but agree with. <br><br>Me. I figure, be polite, show the consideration to others you would like to receive. <br><br>If you live by and recognise in others the rules/rights of Self ownership, exchange labour and property <i>only</i> by voluntary mutual consent. You don't initiate force or fraud against others and defend yourself against it then you can't go too far wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com