tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post995169805178809770..comments2023-10-10T05:17:55.737-07:00Comments on Crushed By Ingsoc: You Cannot Justify Discrimination on Grounds of Sexual Orientation- PeriodCrushedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-4408812226050807492008-04-09T15:11:00.000-07:002008-04-09T15:11:00.000-07:00Gay people have as much right to do exactly what t...Gay people have as much right to do exactly what the straight community do,yet many use any way they can to try and prevent it. Can't understand why there is such an objection to gay peoples and gay 'political' groups or as said at another place, the fashion industry being run by gays, so WHO CARES? I don't like the inference that gays are pedophiles, plenty of them sick fkrs in the straight community, its not ruled by sexual orientation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-39592078639905372762008-04-09T17:34:00.000-07:002008-04-09T17:34:00.000-07:00"I don't like the inference that gays are pedophil..."I don't like the inference that gays are pedophiles, plenty of them sick fkrs in the straight community, its not ruled by sexual orientation."<br><br>The 'inference' I believe is that more pedophiles are gay, not most gays are pedophiles :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-34012573903844287152008-04-09T18:15:00.000-07:002008-04-09T18:15:00.000-07:00Live and let live, that's what I say.Live and let live, that's what I say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-78880370224254274842008-04-09T21:37:00.000-07:002008-04-09T21:37:00.000-07:00And it's time that we show our common humanity wit...<i>And it's time that we show our common humanity with them, by thanking our lucky stars we never went through that.<br>And make it easier for them.</i><br><br>Amen to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-3410559663615180612008-04-09T22:08:00.000-07:002008-04-09T22:08:00.000-07:00And as sexual orientation is a complete construct ...And as sexual orientation is a complete construct anyway, as was shown, then the follow up post puts it even more clearly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-43360027467661036352008-04-09T22:58:00.000-07:002008-04-09T22:58:00.000-07:00Nunyaa- Agreed, totally. Yes, it's very unpleasant...Nunyaa- Agreed, totally. Yes, it's very unpleasant inference, and it is used time and again by those who should know better, because it's pretty much the nastiest slur you can make against a grouop. It has an evil potency.<br><br>Verlin- No, paedophiles aren't gay or straight, don't feel in to the trap of believing their propaganda, trying to justify themselves by bringing their actions into the realms of human sexuality.<br><br>It isn't.<br><br>And gay people shouldn't have to have that connection made, that they sit halfway along a line betwen 'mormal' and 'deviant'.<br><br>Oestrebunny- Yes. And you're right.<br>Consenting adults, free to determine best the route the route to their own fulfillment in the time they have on Earth.<br><br>jmb- There's still a long way to go on this front. Any gay or lesbian person will tell you that.<br>Children still grow up treating them as perverts, even know, and they are right to want to change that perception and be fully understood, fully included members of society.<br><br>James- You present heterosexuality as what's meant to be, and homosexuality as a deviancy.<br><br>Now, I agree, human sexuality is often a construct, I think we're all slightly bisexual in some ways, but we do tend to have definite prefernces.<br>And these preferences are powerful determinents in finding happiness.<br><br>If you oppose two consenting adults expressing love and affection to eachother, merely on the grounds of their anatomy, you are making a decision based on the fact that you actually think those organs determine who we are, not our thought processeses and emotions.<br><br>Again, judging people and their actions based on what genitalia they have.<br><br>Does it matter how many people do it?<br>Your think that people get damaged by it. Only because of a social stigma. Remove that, and then no. <br>It's harmless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-21636257083138374572008-04-10T04:56:00.000-07:002008-04-10T04:56:00.000-07:00Sometimes I dunno wheter I should cry or laugh at ...Sometimes I dunno wheter I should cry or laugh at ppls ignorance. You don’t chose your gender, nationality, ethnicity or your sexual orientation. Everyone should be able to feel comfortable in their own skin and be proud of what & who they are.<br><br>As long as it isn’t hurting anyone, why do other ppl care what kinda preferences other ppl have? Seriously, get over it! Everyone should be treated with respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-90733126254520386472008-04-10T12:07:00.000-07:002008-04-10T12:07:00.000-07:00Crash dummie - bulsh. There is no such thing as s...Crash dummie - bulsh. There is no such thing as sexual orientation - it's a construct.<br><br>I'm not surprised by ppls ignorance at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-11471838858598354282008-04-10T12:16:00.000-07:002008-04-10T12:16:00.000-07:00Further to that, the predilection for same sex or ...Further to that, the predilection for same sex or some other variation is a product of many factors, inc. birth, early years, schooling, home experiences, one or other parent and so on and so on.<br><br>It is also affected by the company one ends up with - i.e. if there is a gay element to the group you hang out with. This doesn't even need further statement but if necessary - the references are there.<br><br>The attempt by the gay bloc to find a genetic causality for gayness has bombed for one simple reason - there isn't one - at least not by itself.<br><br>People have been hoodwinked for a long time by this construct of "orientation" and it's time we all woke up to the political ruse it is.<br><br>Lest you wish to say I'm a sad person - just because the tone is less than gracious does not mean the arguments are any less cogent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-37339005894079910922008-04-10T12:22:00.000-07:002008-04-10T12:22:00.000-07:00Crashie- EXACLTLY.There'sno rational argument agai...Crashie- EXACLTLY.<br>There'sno rational argument against that, all else is a red herring.<br><br>James- To re-iterate the point I keep ramming home with a sledgehammer, and you repeatedly try to evade, it really doesn't matter whether it's genetic, cultural, or whatever.<br><br>Fact is, plenty of people out there, choose to do it, like to do it, and lead very fulfilling lives out of doing it.<br><br>Who are you or I, to state it stands in a lessened condition, than the monogamous marriage, that reflects the way you want to live, and the more open relationship ideal that I espouse, which in both cases, are personal choices?<br><br>It's about choice. Why are you against adult people being given the full freedom to make their own lifestyle choices, with a full and balanced view of ALL angles of opinion on the subject?<br><br>And then, find their own paths to their OWN happiness?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3334391160365031546.post-41423649153034857332008-04-10T13:10:00.000-07:002008-04-10T13:10:00.000-07:00CBI: either you choose not to read what I wrote or...CBI: either you choose not to read what I wrote or you can't understand it.<br><br>I said the INFERENCE is that MORE pedophiles ARE gay; not MOST gays are pedophiles.<br><br>The logic in there should be easy to follow. It was in response to nunyaa's comment before mine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com